We’re continuing our new series called The Unraveller, where an author or illustrator brings us behind the scenes of one of their books. The latest episode is up, with author Gary D. Schmidt talking about Orbiting Jupiter.

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Listen to every episode of The Unraveller below:

And if you’re interested, you can listen to Season 1 of The Yarn: